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Post by Icciotto. on May 7, 2014 18:32:44 GMT -5
I posted this over at RKC, so being that I will be spending a lot of my time here, I would like to post this here. I am extremely interested in feedback, any and all greatly appreciated! I don't know if Meomi would be okay with me making this here (kind of like a Rootz exclusive vet clinic to add to the realism), or if I should make my own thing elsewhere. Or maybe you all don't like the idea - let me know! Thanks so much! [Side note in regards to sickness and euthanasia: I personally feel strongly about this idea because I know how easy it is to get a million and one petz, and although you can love them all...you really can't. Ya know? It sounds horrible, but just like in real life, too much of something is sometimes a bad thing. So not only would the whole game have not only a realistic feel to it, but you would be truly getting attached to your petz as just in real life - some of the best things in life do not last forever, but there will always be memories. I apologize in advanced as well if anyone takes offense to this idea, please don't. I have worked in the (veterinary) medical field for a long, long while and may sound a bit forward with things when I truly do have a soft heart.  ] If anyone remembers, I constantly am having many ideas, some better than others! I have another though upon coming back!  If anyone is interested in this, let me know here. Being in the (real life) veterinary profession for quite some time now, I would like to bring that into the petz game. Petz is a fun, happy game as it is without any add ins per se, but to me, even if it were with only some of your petz, to play with some realistically would be well, fun! I have an example with Mini (my little Chi pup) below. [Start Medical Hx] Mini was brought home on April 30, 2014. She was adopted from someone who could no longer care for her. Mini's parents are unknown, however, she is supposedly from showing lineage per the previous owner. Mini was approximately 10 weeks old on 4/30/14 when she was brought home. Medical Records as of 5/7/2014 Current age: 11 wks. (DOB: February 19, 2014) Breed: Chihuahua Color: Light Brown/white Weight: 3.9lbs. Vaccinations: Distemper without Corona virus (1/3), Bordetella yearly (oral) Dewormings: Strongid 0.4mL Fecal sent to the lab, should expect results in 1-3 days. Nails trimmed, heart sounds normal, no arrhythmia or murmur heard. Lungs clear, stomach palpitated, no umbilical hernia felt. No crepitus in knees/hind legs, no luxation in either patella felt. Puppy teeth still present, no ulcers in the mouth. Recheck in 3-4 weeks for booster vaccines, recheck examination. [/end medical hx] Now, of course you, as the owner would have to give me the petz' birth date (preferably in real time - for example, Mini was adopted on 4/30/14 from the adoption center, but I made up some history and gave her an age at adoption [10 weeks], then calculated her true birth date), history, and problems (if any). How it would work with sicknesses and all could be made up by you, the owner, or you could just leave it up to chance as to what I may or may not find upon examination. What I may or may not find upon examination would depend on patient's breed, age, sex, altering status (spayed/neutered or not), and of course the history (if any) you have given to me. I have also thought this would be a very cool thing to start up with both OB and non-OB breeds and although these petz participating in this realistic spin do not have to be show/competition animals, this would add a really cool realistic spin on showing and breeding and all. All of this would be done in real time, so for example, as you see in Mini's medical history, she got her first set of vaccines, albeit, realistically speaking a bit late, but when I received her, much as in the real world when you get a puppy that doesn't have any vaccination records and is older than 6-7 weeks. This service would be limited to catz and dogz as I do not have any real life medical experience with wild animals/exotics. You would get a report to put in your petz' profile(s) and that would carry on with them if they were to be adopted out to someone else. Now, this next part you could opt out of if you participated of course, as some people may be sensitive to such issues. Say if you had an animal that was elderly and diagnosed say with some type of aggressive cancer (just for argument's sake), you could have the option to do treatment or you could have the option to euthanize the animal humanely. Once euthanized, your animal would be able to be cremated (hence file deletion) and you would receive the "ashes back to you" as a certificate and remembrance. You could also opt to not have euthanasia at all and not participate in anything but routine things such as vaccines and such or opt just to take your pet home and keep them comfortable. Hospitalization would also be an option if you would like (and when needed). If you consent, there could always be the (random) possibility of a complication with surgery (if it was needed, just as in real life), or a turn for the worse while being hospitalized (again, just as in real medicine). |
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Post by GingerJazzCatzZ on May 9, 2014 3:40:37 GMT -5
Maybe, it's just me, but I think it's too much... I'm fine with shows, games and such, but this... It's too much. Well, at least, for me... I prefer more to see if they're sick in game and just heal them by medicine that creators of the game gave to us...
I think if you want to have everything how it is in real life, just get real cat(s) or dog(s) and stop playing Petz... It's GAME, it's NOT reality! It's my opinion. If you don't like it, it's not my problem. You wanted to know my opinion, I told that for you. Am I right? Or not?...
So, I say no, I guess... Sorry...
(Also, if it will be as a rule, I think that I'll have no choice but to just leave this forum... Or just ignore it... Sorry, but I don't want to have TOO much reality...)
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Post by Icciotto. on May 9, 2014 6:58:51 GMT -5
Maybe, it's just me, but I think it's too much... I'm fine with shows, games and such, but this... It's too much. Well, at least, for me... I prefer more to see if they're sick in game and just heal them by medicine that creators of the game gave to us... I think if you want to have everything how it is in real life, just get real cat(s) or dog(s) and stop playing Petz... It's GAME, it's NOT reality! It's my opinion. If you don't like it, it's not my problem. You wanted to know my opinion, I told that for you. Am I right? Or not?... So, I say no, I guess... Sorry... (Also, if it will be as a rule, I think that I'll have no choice but to just leave this forum... Or just ignore it... Sorry, but I don't want to have TOO much reality...)
Thanks for your opinion, I asked for opinions because I want them lovely. It wouldn't be considered an opinion if you agreed with everything I said just because I said it. You don't have to apologize for your opinion either. I appreciate it. To bring up a second point, I do have real pets in real life and I play the petz game. I work in the industry of veterinary medicine and greatly enjoy it; so that is why I stated above in my original post that I understand other people's opinions, because I understand that they may or may not like the idea, which is absolutely fine either way. There is no reason for me to stop playing petz as a game, as I can enjoy playing a game and my real life pets at the same time, I just play a bit differently than maybe other people, which I just wanted to share with everyone, not push it on them so they have to do it too. Please understand that. A third point too; there would be absolutely no need to think about quitting this forum...as for one, I am not staff on this forum, and if I were to open a little clinic, it would not be mandatory that everyone participates. It would be as optional as showing your petz in pose showz - some people do, some people don't. Some people may play the petz game like me and some people won't, some people like ketchup with their hot dogs, some don't. If I were to open anything bigger than a little thread for the people who want to participate with their petz, I would create my own forum or blog or what have you separate from Rootz here. Rootz is Meomi's and the staff's creation here, and I am not looking to change that. Thanks again for your opinion, and I definitely would like to see the opinions of others as well! ^^ |
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Post by Meomi on May 9, 2014 7:00:15 GMT -5
This is really neat! <3 I love it a lot! The only problem I have though, is that it might be a little too much for this "simple" forum. I think it'd be a GREAT idea for a new forum though! Have you ever thought about doing one? I'd like to keep this forum as simple as possible so that it brings out the fun playtime we used to have when we started playing petz. Thank you so much for offering this though <3 If you decide to do this elsewhere, please let me know, I'd love to join in on this. It's a fab idea! |
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Post by Icciotto. on May 9, 2014 7:05:35 GMT -5
This is really neat! <3 I love it a lot! The only problem I have though, is that it might be a little too much for this "simple" forum. I think it'd be a GREAT idea for a new forum though! Have you ever thought about doing one? I'd like to keep this forum as simple as possible so that it brings out the fun playtime we used to have when we started playing petz. Thank you so much for offering this though <3 If you decide to do this elsewhere, please let me know, I'd love to join in on this. It's a fab idea! Thanks lovely! We must have posted at about the same time before when I was responding to GingerJazzCatzZ above. It was an idea to me just now to open it up as my own little forum. I wanted to have some unique offerings there in junction with the veterinary clinic - things like nutritionists, training, boarding, day care, grooming, pet stores...all with a little twist as to what you may be thinking literally though. I definitely want to keep the natural raising/owning without petza and cheating...but anyone who knows me...knows I get ideas. I was thinking of adding a SIM/RPGish feel to this forum if I make it. Knowing me...I'll be making it.  |
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Post by Meomi on May 9, 2014 7:08:04 GMT -5
Yes you ninja'd me xD
You should maybe actually talk with Amy on Duke's Group. She might be interested in having something like this over there <3
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Post by Icciotto. on May 9, 2014 7:24:19 GMT -5
Lol, I ninja'd. I thought about Duke's Group as well, I felt as though my other part to the idea (SIM/RPGish) point system I would be adding to the mix would make Duke's Group something it is not, which I definitely do not want to do; Duke's Group is so unique on its own! See, what I was thinking was is some how integrating a point system (or "stats" if you will) separate from the stats you can see in the petz game if you have petza installed. There would be things like speed, agility, strength, intelligence, etc. which would more than likely randomly be generated when kittens or puppies (or an adult cat/dog upon joining the forum). This way only petz you opt to play with realistically (or all your petz if one so chose) would be involved and have the option for sickness, extra stats, possibly euthanasia/passing on, etc. An idea stirring in my brain most definitely. |
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Post by GingerJazzCatzZ on May 9, 2014 8:09:41 GMT -5
Of course everybody can have pets in real life and play Petz at the same time. I'm myself such person! I'm just mean you're trying to make the game too real... If I'm not right, I'm sorry... I like it more when it's just game without all those "difficult things" (or I don't know how to call it...)...
Well, I was afraid that it'll be approved as a rule by admins... But as I can see now, I can't afraid about it...
But as idea for seperate forum it's not bad! If you'll open such forum, I wish you good luck with it! 
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Post by Icciotto. on May 9, 2014 8:17:11 GMT -5
Thanks! ^^ Don't worry though, I will make it separate from Rootz here! I'm all for people playing how they in particular want to play. After all, that's what makes petz so much fun - everyone's individual way of doing things! I always think, if it weren't for people's unique ideas, we would never have the online community we do today. |
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Post by GingerJazzCatzZ on May 9, 2014 8:19:04 GMT -5
^Well, you're right! Good luck with it! |
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Post by Icciotto. on May 9, 2014 8:23:10 GMT -5
Thank you very much!
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2014 10:30:41 GMT -5
This is really neat! <3 I love it a lot! The only problem I have though, is that it might be a little too much for this "simple" forum. I think it'd be a GREAT idea for a new forum though! Have you ever thought about doing one? I'd like to keep this forum as simple as possible so that it brings out the fun playtime we used to have when we started playing petz. Thank you so much for offering this though <3 If you decide to do this elsewhere, please let me know, I'd love to join in on this. It's a fab idea! I've been meaning to reply to this since I saw it. And, basically what Meomi has said. When I signed up for Rootz, I was looking for natural gameplay, like what I did as a kid. Adopting and getting to know first gens, no hexed petz, no new breedz, having to actually manually feed them.. stuff like that. Petz is a pretty simplistic game. If petz are sick, they get the sniffles and need medicine. Petz don't die, the closest they get to doing so is running away. (And, before the days of PetzA, that was the game's way of trying to instill a cap on how many petz you could have.) I think this Vet idea would certainly be very realistic, but I can see why people wouldn't want to join in on it, because that isn't what they're looking for from this forum. If it was part of a separate forum, dedicated to playing petz realistically, I think it'd be great. [Side note in regards to sickness and euthanasia: I personally feel strongly about this idea because I know how easy it is to get a million and one petz, and although you can love them all...you really can't. Ya know? It sounds horrible, but just like in real life, too much of something is sometimes a bad thing. So not only would the whole game have not only a realistic feel to it, but you would be truly getting attached to your petz as just in real life - some of the best things in life do not last forever, but there will always be memories. I apologize in advanced as well if anyone takes offense to this idea, please don't. I have worked in the (veterinary) medical field for a long, long while and may sound a bit forward with things when I truly do have a soft heart. ] -snip- Now, this next part you could opt out of if you participated of course, as some people may be sensitive to such issues. Say if you had an animal that was elderly and diagnosed say with some type of aggressive cancer (just for argument's sake), you could have the option to do treatment or you could have the option to euthanize the animal humanely. Once euthanized, your animal would be able to be cremated (hence file deletion) and you would receive the "ashes back to you" as a certificate and remembrance. You could also opt to not have euthanasia at all and not participate in anything but routine things such as vaccines and such or opt just to take your pet home and keep them comfortable. Hospitalization would also be an option if you would like (and when needed). If you consent, there could always be the (random) possibility of a complication with surgery (if it was needed, just as in real life), or a turn for the worse while being hospitalized (again, just as in real medicine). Honestly, petz overpopulation was something I'd considered when I joined this forum. But, I honestly don't think it'll be a problem for me for a long time.. my catz still haven't had any kittens, and if I ever stop feeling overwhelmed, the game does provide a spay/neuter option to ensure I don't wind up with any more kitters to take care of. *shrug* |
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Post by Icciotto. on May 9, 2014 12:51:02 GMT -5
@sharebear Thanks for the input! I definitely see why it may not be a good idea for this forum specifically. This forum is unique as it concentrates on the, well, roots of the petz game! Veterinary services were not included in the original petz game. Now, like you said, as a separate forum of its own, yes, I think that would be cool!
When I create a forum or something of the like, I'll be sure to share that with everyone here!
Are there any specifics you guys would like to see? Now I know euthanasia and the option of petz dying is not in a lot of people's favor, understandable, however, what about just the wellness vaccination/wellness screening part? Would you all think it would be fun to send your petz to a clinic to get spayed/neutered and have all the bells and whistles of "meds to go home", e-collar, discharge instructions, certificates, etc. rather than just pushing that button? Maybe on a forum where you selected a few petz to play realistically with and then have money you would have to have the funds to purchase such services like surgeries and vaccinations. [Note: not on Rootz here, on a separate forum this would be taking place]
On this forum I were to make there would also be shows and competitions that would have an entrance fee, reward money for winning, and puppies would cost actual game money. There also would be shops and such to buy items that could be used in this SIM like petz forum. I only bring up these ideas because they are all swimming around in my head and if others could enjoy them, I'd like to share.
I really appreciate all of your feedback, both for and against. Any ideas in addition are welcome as well! ^.^
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Post by tabbilious on May 9, 2014 13:05:02 GMT -5
I'm with GingerJazzCatz and Sharebear on this one. I think it would be a bit too realistic for the forum, because petz 5/4/3/2 is a simple game, not like nowadays Petz where there is much less freedom and its slightly complicated.
But i do like to experiment with stuff alot, so it is an interesting idea. maybe if it was a bit less realistic then i would agree. |
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Post by Icciotto. on May 9, 2014 13:43:47 GMT -5
I'm with GingerJazzCatz and Sharebear on this one. I think it would be a bit too realistic for the forum, because petz 5/4/3/2 is a simple game, not like nowadays Petz where there is much less freedom and its slightly complicated.
But i do like to experiment with stuff alot, so it is an interesting idea. maybe if it was a bit less realistic then i would agree. Like stated before, I definitely agree that it would not be fit for this forum in particular. As its own stand alone idea...I think it could be fun! I've been toying with a layout for a forum, we'll see how it goes. If for some reason it gets made and no one really goes for it, hey, I had fun making it! I'm excited to give it a go though, and am always open to suggestions. Once I get it more together I will share a link and you guys can see if you would be interested in trying it out with a few of your petz! tabbilious I do agree though that petz in and of itself is a very simple, fun game. I think if people were to try it out, they probably wouldn't do the realistic stuff with all their petz, just a select few. It kind of would be a game of its own that involves petz rather than the petz game itself, make sense? I think that is where I was kind of lacking in explaining to you guys what I was thinking. How I stated everything in my very first post it sounds like I'm just changing the whole petz game into something it is not. That isn't my intention (now I have the words to describe it lol), this forum I create will almost be like a SIM game, with a touch of RPG, and of course, petz. The best way I can describe it without showing all of you the finished product ('cause it is still in the making) is this forum will be a game of its own that includes petz. Instead of the mini games that came in petz 5, think of it as a very big game that is externally related to petz rather than coming with it. If that makes sense... Does it? lol |
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Dang... Too late now, I guess.